Resources > Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Updated 12/30/06 @ 9:55 AM.
Does my child have to race if they join the team?
Why does the ski program start in the Fall before
it snows?
I have a middle school child that has never skied
before, but would like to join the team- will he feel left out?
Where do the kids ski?
What do you mean by J4 and J3, and how do I know what
group my child is in?
I have always thought that cross country skiing was
a lot of work. How do the kids manage to stay interested in the
sport and what if I don't ski?
What type of ski equipment do we need?
I don't know a lot about waxing- how important is
it and how can I learn about it?
Where is a good place to get equipment?
What if I don't know what good equipment is?
Does my skier need a uniform and if so where can
I get one?
What if I want my child to ski, but we can't make
all the practices?
What about the fees, are there hidden costs or any
financial help available?
How do I know if my skier should go to Fall camp
or regional races?
How does our fee money and funds that are raised
get distributed?
How do we get information about races and other skiing
events?
What about pot lucks- are they important to go to-
how do they work?
Someone mentioned Lindley World Cups- what in the
world are they?
I understand that we have to do obligation hours
as part of our fees. What does that entail?
Does the club provide transportation to practices
and races?
Beyond volunteer hours- what type of commitment is
our family looking at by joining this program?
Does my child have to race if they join
the team?
No, racing is an option but certainly not a requirement. Some athletes prefer to just train with the
team and improve their skiing technique and fitness level. They can always pick up racing as
they feel comfortable with it.
Why does the ski program start in the
Fall before it snows?
BSF nordic is a year round program that not only focuses on skiing,
but also on fitness. Better fitness results in a better skiing experience.
There is an option for skiers that prefer to train only in the winter,
but athletes are encouraged to train year round.
I have a middle school child that has
never skied before, but would like to join the team- will he feel
left out?
Nordic skiers like most endurance athletes reach their peak during
their late 20's, early 30's, so starting in middle school is not
considered late (as a matter of fact our own Olympic skier Leif
Zimmerman did not start until he was 13). BSF/Nordic groups kids
according to their age, not ability. All skiers ski at their own
rate and progress individually. A beginning skier probably will
not be able to keep up with the kids that have been skiing for a
long time, so their workouts will cover shorter distances (for example
skiing 2 loops instead of the 5 or 6 which other skiers are doing),
with more individual technique work from the coach. Coaches are
aware of how hard it might be to feel part of the team, and will
make every effort to help. One nice thing about Nordic skiing is
that there is no "bench", anyone who wants to participate or race
can do so- travel to races is open to anyone regardless of ability-
progress is measured on an individual basis as the skier improves.
Where do the kids ski?
Practices are held in various locations according to the weather
and snow conditions. Younger children (J4 and younger) usually ski
or do dryland (that is what practice is called before we have enough
snow to ski) at Lindley Park (we meet behind the hospital) mid week
and at Bohart Ranch on Saturdays. Older kids (J3 and older) may
train at either venue. During Christmas break we often have a few
days of training at Lone Mountain Ranch. The best way to find out
what we are doing is to look on the web site (bsfnordic.com) for
updates. We also use a phone tree on occasion and use e-mail to
let kids know if there is a change in location for training on a
specific day.
What do you mean by J4 and J3, and how
do I know what group my child is in?
In Nordic racing, age categories are referred to as J6- OJ, which
means they are junior skiers. Each category involves 2 years, so
you can be a first or second year J6, J5, J4, J3, J2, J1 or an OJ.
Your child's group is dependent on their age after January 1st.
For example, J6 skiers are under 8 by January 1st. J5 first years
are 8 by January 1st and J5 second years are 9 by January 1st. J4
skiers are 10 and 11, J3 are 12 and 13, J2 are 14 and 15, J1 are
16 and 17 and OJ's are over 17. Our head coach decides upon training
groups.
I have always thought that cross country
skiing was a lot of work. How do the kids manage to stay interested
in the sport and what if I don't ski?
We are very lucky to have professional coaches in the ski program.
For younger children practices consist of games, relays and technique
practice- they don't even realize they are working and getting fit.
As the skiers get older, practice does become more serious, but
coaches vary the workouts and still have interesting, fun activities.
Of course, there are always the all BSF snowball fights to look
forward to, that happen on a pretty regular basis (adults- make
sure to duck!!). Many parents enter the program as non-skiers. It
is always an option to walk into a race or ride a snowmobile and
there are plenty of ways for non-skiers to get involved. Some parents
take up the sport with their children. BSF offers master (adult)
classes 3 times a day including one session at the same time the
kids ski.
What type of ski equipment do we need?
J5 and J4 skiers can get by with one pair of skis and combination
boots and one set of poles. Skis should be wax-able, but be forewarned
that if you only have one pair of skis it takes a lot of time to
strip the wax off skis since groups often alternate classic style
(diagonal) and skate skiing. It is preferable for J4's and up to
have both classic and skate skis and poles. Older kids should see
Dragon and the handbook for what they need for equipment.
I don't know a lot about waxing- how
important is it and how can I learn about it?
Good waxing is important for a positive experience both at practice
and races. There are both kick waxes (used in the kick zone for
classic skis) and glide waxes used over the rest of the ski and
on skate skis. Coaches will help skiers with waxing before practice,
at races specific wax coaches attend and may put kick waxes on skis
or finishing touches of glide wax. There are also a variety of waxing
clinics at local ski shops particularly before Fall camp. If there
is interest, BSF may also put on a waxing clinics.
Where is a good place to get equipment?
We have several excellent cross country skiing stores in town.
Bangtail, Northern Lights and Threshold sports give discounts to
team members. Each store has their own policy and carry different
brands of equipment. Look for ski shop nights or discount information
at registration or on the web site. The ski swap is also a great
place to find good used equipment.
What if I don't know what good equipment
is?
At the swap, coaches and team members are available to answer questions.
The ski shop staffs have also been involved with BSF for many years
and will be able to help you with what you need. Just keep asking
questions!! Nordic equipment sells out very quickly at the swap
so if you plan on purchasing good used equipment it is important
to get in early. Swap workers get into the building an hour before
others. In order to work there is a sign up night at Lindley Center
(this is advertised in the newsletter). Get in line early for the
best shifts and make sure to indicate that you are with Nordic-
this is how what percentage of the profits the Nordic group gets
is determined.
Does my skier need a uniform and if
so where can I get one?
It is not required to have a uniform, but it does help skiers feel
as if they are part of a team. We change uniforms periodically.
We are presently at the end of a cycle; some uniforms may be available
from past team members. You can also search the internet for similar
styles. Check for uniforms or make a request for one on the member
section of our web site bsfnordic.com.
What if I want my child to ski, but
we can't make all the practices?
This is fine, just let the coach know. There is however, no reduction
in fees for missed practices.
What about the fees, are there hidden
costs or any financial help available?
If your child chooses to go to regional races, there are extra
costs for racing which include the cost of transportation, lodging,
food, race fees and coaching fees. The cost of a race depends on
the distance and amount of days the skiers are gone for. They usually
run between $200 - $300 depending on the distance skiers are traveling.
There is also a Fall camp at West Yellowstone for J3's and older.
The cost of camp varies, but is usually between $300-$400. The Nordic
group sponsors an auction in the Fall in order to help parents off
set some of these costs. There is also some sort of fund raiser
during the year to help families with travel and camp costs. Camp
and races are optional, but they are fun and a great opportunity
for our skiers. For local races there is usually an entry fee. Many
families enjoy going to the races to ski themselves and to cheer
on the team. Going to these races helps develop connections to the
Nordic ski community. There are need and merit scholarships available
to help with fees (but not travel, that's where the auction and
fundraising comes in). Applications will be at sign ups or on the
web at bsfnordic.com.
How do I know if my skier should go
to Fall camp or regional races?
Fall camp for many skiers is the highlight of the year. It is time
for Nordic skiers to get together as a community, ski, socialize
and meet other people with similar interest. We are incredibly lucky
to have the West Yellowstone camp practically on our backyard, when
many skiers travel across the country to attend. Any skier J3 or
older is encouraged to attend Fall camp. For new skiers it is a
time to learn and train with the team. For experienced skiers it
is an integral part of their training plan, as well as a time to
meet and re-connect with other skiers. Many families with younger
children also attend and ski as families. Fall camp occurs during
Thanksgiving week. Athletes that travel with the team go from Saturday
to Saturday (they miss three days of school- but at this point the
schools are fairly use to this and work with us). Many families
celebrate Thanksgiving at West, and some pick up their children
and bring them home for the day and back to West on Friday. All
skiers are welcome at regional races as long as they meet the criteria
in the handbook (J3 or older, moderate fitness level, comfortable
with both ski techniques, psycho-social abilities, motivated to
compete at this level). Athletes interested in being selected for
the Intermountain Junior Olympic team must attend regional races.
How does our fee money and funds that
are raised get distributed?
The nordic committee which is an off-shoot of the larger BSF organization
develops a budget each year. The majority of our budget goes for
salaries for our coaches (both full and part time), but also includes
insurance, van expenses, travel, coaches education, athlete support,
trail grooming, snow making and general trail maintenance. See the
handbook for a more detailed breakdown of income and expenditures.
How do we get information about races
and other skiing events?
On our web site www.bsfnordic.com there are race schedules and
other information. We also send out e-mails about different events
and opportunities within the Nordic community. It is important make
sure we have your e- mail address and that you check it regularly
since most of the information is sent out via e-mail. We also send
out a BSF newsletter once a month, and make announcements at monthly
potlucks (there will be a schedule on our web site of potlucks dates,
these are nice times to meet other skiers, coaches and families).
Most importantly keep in touch with your child's coach for news.
What about pot lucks- are they important
to go to- how do they work?
Potlucks are once a month usually the second Wednesday of the month.
Families bring a dish according to their last name. Be warned- the
kids are starving after practice so bring much more than you would
anticipate you would need. The potlucks are a chance to get to know
other skiing families, coaches, masters and members of the nordic
community. There is often some sort of program and announcements
during the evening. They last about an hour and a half.
Someone mentioned Lindley World Cups-
what in the world are they?
Lindley World Cups started several years ago as fun, citizen nordic
races. We try to have 2 or 3 a season usually on the same day as
potlucks. These are no entrance fee, fun races at Lindley Park in
which the whole family can participate (different length races for
different ages). Often there is a costume type theme- so make sure
to keep all your old funky clothes!!
I understand that we have to do obligation
hours as part of our fees. What does that entail?
You don't have to volunteer, but volunteering is an option as
part of your fees. Fees only pay for 50% of the cost of running
the ski program. Families who agree to volunteer must commit to working 30 hours per skier with a maximum of 60 hours per family. If you prefer not to volunteer you can pay a $150 non-volunteer fee. Volunteer hours help raise funds in a variety of ways from helping
with races to manning booths at events and working at Film festivals.
Volunteering is also fun and a great way to meet others in the program.
Many people do much more that the required hours just because it
is fun. See the handbook for more information on the required hours
and opportunities for volunteering.
Does the club provide transportation
to practices and races?
For Junior National Qualifiers the club provides a bus at an extra
fee (we often share with West Yellowstone to keep the cost down).
For practices we have two vans one which goes to Sacajawea Middle
School and one to Bozeman High School. The van is available for
middle school and high school students for a $75.00 fee with older
students getting first preference. See the registration form for
details on van rider ship.
Beyond volunteer hours- what type
of commitment is our family looking at by joining this program?
The amount of time and energy put into the program varies. Some
families choose to only participate as required, but many of us
have found that the more we do the more fulfilling the ski program
is. Those that are very active have had the opportunity to be involved
in one of the top nordic programs in the country as well as an active,
enriching life style. Most of our young skiers are not only athletes,
but high achieving students and active participants in our community.
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